By Robert Walker
Summary: tabloids don’t publish fake obituaries. It was also reported in her local newspaper the Bath Chronicle. Being Buddhist and Vegan doesn’t make you OCD. OCD is not a mental illness.
He confuses two stories, one of a 16 year old UK girl called Isabel Taylor who killed herself partly out of fear of solar storms, which doomsday prophets associated with the 2012 stories.
he killed herself at 3.15pm, on September 24 2011S
The other one is about a sixteen year old Indian girl called Chaya who killed herself in september 2008, out of a fear that the Earth would crack open when the Large Hadron Collider switched on, afraid that everyone in her village would die.
This is the video I’m debunking, by Scott who makes a living from ad revenue on Nibiru Doomsday videos. I think that youtube should stop all ad revenue on videos like this myself – any video that promotes doomsday stories just shouldn’t get ad revenue. They have other exceptions such as videos that show extreme violence, so surely ones that make people suicidal with fake news should be exempted too.
He earns . That’s $3.36K – $54.7 K
He claims that the story is fake news. It is true that the Daily Mail sometimes publishes inaccurate and occasionally out and out fake news (don’t seem to have a system in place to check for fake news) – but not fake obituaries. And he has got them confused, the Daily Mail doesn’t run stories about people having alien births etc – those are the like the Sun. Even the red top tabloids don’t publish fake obituaries. Any journalist who wrote a fake obituary would be out of their job pretty quick.
It’s better to go to her local newspaper – she was from Bath and there’s a long obituary in the Bath Chronicle here which you link to but don’t mention:
And in the gazette and herald
This is the Daily Mail one he mentions
The main story that scared her was a fear of nuclear reaction in the sun and sun spots. Since it’s associated with 2012 then I expect that that means the solar maximum (which doesn’t have an exact date but reached its maximum some time in 2013) which happens every 11 years. Before 2012 then a lot of people associated the next solar maximum with the end of the world and that it’s date was in 2012. and that it would somehow end the world.
It’s all nonsense. The worst that can happen is a solar storm which causes satellites to reboot (can’t actually physically damage them, just flip bits in their memory) and cause power surges in very long distance multiple kilometer cables. And those can happen at any time not just at solar maximum.
OCD NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS
- Being Vegan or Buddhist does not make you OCD
- OCD is not a mental illness.
- It is called “Obsessive Compulsive Disorder” not “Mental Compulsive Disorder”.
It can have many causes but is sometimes a result of depression and when that’s the case, then when the depression is treated the OCD goes away. So whatever the course you did on psychology, it doesn’t sound as if it covered OCD.
“OCD is not a disease or a ‘mental illness’, but sometimes it is a secondary condition triggered by depression (or sometimes General Anxiety Disorder).If this is so, then treating the depression is the first priority, and the GP is the first port of call. Once the depression goes away, the OCD may well follow without much extra effort.”
The most common treatment for OCD is CBT – Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. Despite the word “therapy” in the title, it’s not related at all to psychotherapy. You don’t discuss your parents or your childhood or anything like that. Just work on how our minds get into ruts – very effective methods to get out of a rut that is causing problems. It is very effective – most people who go through CBT are able to end the worst symptoms quickly within a few weeks of starting the treatment.
STORY DOESN’T SAY SHE HAD OCD AND YOU CAN’T DIAGNOSE OCD FROM A SHORT OBITUARY
Who knows if she had OCD or not? It’s a spectrum thing and many people do to some extent, so it would be no surprise if she did. But a doctor would not diagnose someone for OCD based on a short obituary! None of the stories say she had OCD.
MIXING UP TWO DIFFERENT STORIES
His link about a girl who killed herself by ingesting pesticides is about a “16 year old girl from central India” who was scared about the Large Hadron Collider. A bit of a difference between a girl in India scared of the LHC and a girl in Bath scared of a solar storm.
The stories about Isabel Taylor say nothing about her researching into pesticides on her computer.
The girl who took the pesticides was called Chaya and her father was called Bihari Lal and she lived in the central Indian city of Indore. She killed herself because of Indian news stories about the world ending because of the Large Hadron Collider. It’s a different story.
“Bihari Lal said Chaya – the eldest of his six children – had been frightened after watching local TV reports that the experiment would cause the “Earth to crack up and everybody in the village would die”.”
CLINICAL PSYCHIATRIST WARNING ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF DOOMSDAY STORIES ON EMOTIONALLY WEAK PEOPLE
The article on the BBC website, which is more complete than the one he link to, ends:
“Clinical psychologist Nadia Masand said some of the television coverage had been “irresponsible”.
“These people are constantly airing series on black magic, blood-sucking vampires; even sensationalising a natural phenomenon such as an eclipse by saying that it means bad omen,” she told the BBC.
“Now prophesising that the Big Bang would bring doomsday! Such programmes can have a disastrous effect on an emotionally weak person.” “
I don’t know of an example of someone who killed themselves out of fear of Nibiru. But I often get people who contact me who say they used to be suicidal until they found the debunking articles and videos. Many say that they were anxious day and night, withdrew from society, talk about spending their time on the internet reading stories about Nibiru and getting more and more scared. These are real people not just lines of text on a computer screen. It’s impossible to say if any of those who contact me who say they felt suicidal would have gone on to commit suicide.
David Morrison said that he heard of several who did. But that’s “anecdotal”. I would not be surprised if at least some people have committed suicide over these videos. Whether or not, many do suffer extreme anxiety. It’s so sad since the whole thing is just nonsense and so easy to debunk if you know a bit of basic astronomy.
For instance, it is easy to see that we have only one sun. Go out any sunny day, block out the sun with a finger, so you don’t damage your eyes by staring at it. Look to left, to right above, below. You won’t see any second sun.
That debunks the whole BS idea that we have two suns. Suns aren’t like bitterns. They can’t hide in the rushes and emit booming sounds – there are no trees or rushes or bushes in the sky to hide behind on a clear day. The other things they say are all easy to debunk too.
I RECOMMEND YOU CROSS THIS CHANNEL OFF YOUR LIST OF PEOPLE WHO SAY SENSIBLE THINGS AND CHECK THEIR SOURCES
Just this short video is so poorly researched and inaccurate, making extravagant claims and claiming to be expert on psychiatry which he is obviously not when he confuses OCD with mental illness and attempts to diagnose OCD from an obituary and calls it “Mental Compulsive Disorder”
And confusing two stories which you can hardly imagine mixing up even on the hastiest of reading. The only two points they had in common was that they were both about young girls aged 16. One was in Bath, England, one was in India. One was in 2011, the other in 2008. One was death by hanging, other was death by taking pesticides. One was fear of solar storms, the other was fear of the LHC.
Anyone who can’t tell those two stories apart is obviously not a reliable source.
Stay well away if you find these things scary. And he is obviously financially motivated as he earns thousands of dollars a year as a result of this activity. Quite possibly thousands of dollars a month from making these videos.
For the stories that scared these two young girls and caused them to commit suicide – why they are no concern at all – see also –
Robert Walker, 2017
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